0-10v question

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TragicDog said:
Can I put a door bell on one of the 0-10v ports and when pushed trigger feed or water change mode?

If so does anyone have any insite on how?

Thinking this Hampton Bay Wired Door Bell Push Button, Black-HB-667-02 - The Home Depot for the button. I know I can do it when I get the Control2 or 4, but can it be done with just the dual pump controller?
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Ive done this with a 9v battery, that applies voltage to the IC2C when pressed.

You could do something similar with a doorbell, but would still need to have a power source inline with the wiring. Center pin positive, outer sheath negative.

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ok, so what I'm understanding then is that the pump controller's 0-10v doesn't have any power out of it. So i need to supply it via a 9v battery. Correct?

on the wiring the tip is positive, and the sleeve is negative? the ring is not connected? Phone connector (audio) - Wikipedia
 
TragicDog said:
ok, so what I'm understanding then is that the pump controller's 0-10v doesn't have any power out of it. So i need to supply it via a 9v battery. Correct?

on the wiring the tip is positive, and the sleeve is negative? the ring is not connected? Phone connector (audio) - Wikipedia
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Yes

Típ is channel 1 input, ring is channel 2 input, sleeve is ground.

You only need a single channel for 1 button, so no need to worry about the ring.

So battery negative to sleeve, battery positive to tip, with a button put anywhere to interrupt the circuit until pressed.
 
Why not use a piezo buzzer and eliminate the need for all the extra electronics?
Average current draw for a piezo is only 15ma.
 
HaulinAshe said:
Why not use a piezo buzzer and eliminate the need for all the extra electronics?
Average current draw for a piezo is only 15ma.
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Actually couldn't you use a piezo electric button, like a gas grill lighter, as the trigger? Just add some resistors in there to get the voltage down to a few volts and have it trigger something when it sees a voltage spike. No battery ever needed.

The polling resolution of the controller might be a limiting factor tho. Anyone know what the poll rate of the 0-10v ports are? I'm thinking it'd have to be pretty quick to catch the voltage jump of a piezo switch.

Check these bad boys out. This would be a sweet switch to use LANGIR Piezo Switch Normally open Ip68 Waterproof Dia. 16mm Panel Cutout Momentary with 2 Cables Natural Anodized Aluminum - - Amazon.com

125-300ms pulse duration... Not sure what Hz that equates to. Also IP68/9 rated.
 
yes, I am talking about the input.

Those buttons do in deed look sweet. My electronics knowledge isn't that good.

would need to know the poling resolution and what resister I'd need to drop it to the right voltage. Would be really nice to not need a power source per se.
 
If you only hooking up one switch all you need is a momentary push button switch of some kind and use it to ground that input. The inputs float at near 2.5v. Just setup the input as push button and set active at 0v. Those things that are used to light gas grills put out thousands of volts to create a spark. That could be damaging to the controller.
 
Danny said:
If you only hooking up one switch all you need is a momentary push button switch of some kind and use it to ground that input. The inputs float at near 2.5v. Just setup the input as push button and set active at 0v. Those things that are used to light gas grills put out thousands of volts to create a spark. That could be damaging to the controller.
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Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to a piezo buzzer, which is not the same as a piezo igniter. Both use similar technology, but piezo buzzers are annunciators that produce sound when power is applied. They are very common electronic components used in all types of alert systems like door alarms, cell phones etc.

But I now understand the OP is asking about using a doorbell button/switch on a 0-10v INPUT, not asking about making a doorbell sound with an output. Carry on...

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fellowapeman said:
Actually couldn't you use a piezo electric button, like a gas grill lighter, as the trigger? Just add some resistors in there to get the voltage down to a few volts and have it trigger something when it sees a voltage spike. No battery ever needed.

The polling resolution of the controller might be a limiting factor tho. Anyone know what the poll rate of the 0-10v ports are? I'm thinking it'd have to be pretty quick to catch the voltage jump of a piezo switch.

Check these bad boys out. This would be a sweet switch to use LANGIR Piezo Switch Normally open Ip68 Waterproof Dia. 16mm Panel Cutout Momentary with 2 Cables Natural Anodized Aluminum - - Amazon.com

125-300ms pulse duration... Not sure what Hz that equates to. Also IP68/9 rated.
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Specs on that switch are definitely sweet! Looks like an average closure time around 200ms.

Electrical Data
Functions Momentary
Contact Arrangement SPST N.O.
Pulse Duration 125 – 300mS Momentary only
Prolonged up to 6 sec
Voltage 1 – 24V AC/DC
Switching Current 0.2A
Rated Breaking Capacity 1W
Operating Cycles >50,000,000
Switch Resistance OFF > 5 MΩ
Switch Resistance ON < 20 Ω
Capacity 30pF
 
HaulinAshe said:
Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to a piezo buzzer, which is not the same as a piezo igniter. Both use similar technology, but piezo buzzers are annunciators that produce sound when power is applied. They are very common electronic components used in all types of alert systems like door alarms, cell phones etc.

But I now understand the OP is asking about using a doorbell button/switch on a 0-10v INPUT, not asking about making a doorbell sound with an output. Carry on...

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I think it was someone else that mentioned the gas grill device. There is a 5v source at the 0-10v input connector. I am guessing that the cable the OP has does not connect to that source. There are third party boxes that are made to hook to this input that allows several pushbutton switches on a single input if needed And they use that source.
 
Danny said:
I think it was someone else that mentioned the gas grill device. There is a 5v source at the 0-10v input connector. I am guessing that the cable the OP has does not connect to that source. There are third party boxes that are made to hook to this input that allows several pushbutton switches on a single input if needed And they use that source.
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This is for the IC2C, Icecap Dual Controller. Not the Control4; no power source.
 
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