Request: Scheduling Modes - Or assistance with feeding

[pblogic]

I apologize if this is already a feature that has been added, but I can't find a way to schedule modes. I want to schedule the modes so I can activate feeding when my feeder feeds. I can't find a way to control everything adequately with the hydros wifi feeder. I don't have a wave engine, and I don't use any wave engine compatible pumps even if I did.

Basically what I am trying to accomplish is this:

Feeding mode Activates at scheduled time
Skimmer turns off
Return pump turns off

Feeder turns on and rotates

5 second delay, and circulation pump turns off ( I want it to run for a few seconds to make my pellets descend for my goby)

10 minutes later switch back to normal mode


Is there any way to make something like this work?

 

[Danny]

There is no way to schedule a mode but you can setup an output using the combiner output type set to 1 input. Then select your wifi feeder as the input. Then set enable advanced settings to on and set the minimum on time to the amount of time you want the feed mode to last when the feeder runs. Then you can use this output in the depends on setting on the outputs you want off and set the dependency mode to off when on. If it is a flow pump with a schedule then you will need to do this in the schedules instead of the actual output.

 

[KrAt0s]

Second the feed schedule option.

@Danny for your solution when the WiFi feeder runs it will shut every thing that’s ’dependent off’ to off?

@pblogic did you try this? I also want to do the same.

 

[pblogic]

Second the feed schedule option.

@Danny for your solution when the WiFi feeder runs it will shut every thing that’s ’dependent off’ to off?

@pblogic did you try this? I also want to do the same.

No, I haven’t tried it yet, it seemed fantastically complicated and I haven’t gotten around to messing with it.

 

[Danny]

Second the feed schedule option.

@Danny for your solution when the WiFi feeder runs it will shut every thing that’s ’dependent off’ to off?

@pblogic did you try this? I also want to do the same.

I don't turn anything completely off but it does switch the schedule on my flow pumps so they drop to 6% during the feed mode. I have a Eheim feeding station so the food is already sinking when it fall out of the feeding tube. So I leave the return pump on.

 

[KrAt0s]

No, I haven’t tried it yet, it seemed fantastically complicated and I haven’t gotten around to messing with it.

Agree that it’s overly complicated. Tried it and not sure if I did it wrong but I could only turn one thing off with that. I was just able to use the mobius app to schedule the 1% slow down for my feeding time. Would prefer to just turn everything off with feed mode for a few minutes. Seems like a good feature request.

 

[KrAt0s]

I don't turn anything completely off but it does switch the schedule on my flow pumps so they drop to 6% during the feed mode. I have a Eheim feeding station so the food is already sinking when it fall out of the feeding tube. So I leave the return pump on.

With the process you’ve described can I turn off 3 outputs in the xp8? Sorry I wasn’t able to figure that out. Just want to shut off the pumps for feed mode

 

[Danny]

Yes, use that output in the depends on statement of the output you want off and set the dependency mode to off if on.

 

[pblogic]

Agree that it’s overly complicated. Tried it and not sure if I did it wrong but I could only turn one thing off with that. I was just able to use the mobius app to schedule the 1% slow down for my feeding time. Would prefer to just turn everything off with feed mode for a few minutes. Seems like a good feature request.

It seems like it should be relatively simple to add, and a bizarre thing not to already have developed in my opinion. I mean, if all I have to do is click the feed button in the app, and feed mode has a timer, how can it possibly be much work for them to add the ability to trigger a mode at a given time? I don’t intend that to sound rude, it just seems like a super strange oversight for a system that is otherwise very user friendly.

 

[Danny]

It seems like it should be relatively simple to add, and a bizarre thing not to already have developed in my opinion. I mean, if all I have to do is click the feed button in the app, and feed mode has a timer, how can it possibly be much work for them to add the ability to trigger a mode at a given time? I don’t intend that to sound rude, it just seems like a super strange oversight for a system that is otherwise very user friendly.

Setup a feed mode output that is triggered by your feeder output. Any output you use it in the dependency for will be affected. Below is my feed mode output. It is triggered on by the wifi feeder output. I also have another output setup so I can halt the feed mode output if I wan to do that, I only slow down my MP10's when in feed mode. this is set to be active for 30 minutes after it is triggered on by the feeder.




Here is the feeder schedule for my MP10's this schedule will not be active unless the feed mode output is on. That is how the dependency mode is setup for the schedule.




Here is one of the other 7 MP10 schedules. All of the other 7 schedules have the dependency mode set the same as the one below. So that make 8 schedules that are controller with the feeder output. If I was turning off my return pump I would use the same dependency mode with it as the schedule below.





Hope the screenshots help.

 

[KrAt0s]

@Danny can you jump on one of the YouTube channels and do some advanced hydros programming options? I think it could benefit many people in the future. Thanks for all the guidance I might try this out in the future, for now I’ve got möbius synced up with my WiFi feeder and it works ok. The 1% can still pull food into the overflow, but it’s minimal.

 

[PensnCrows]

@Danny. Second on the you tube video. Or if not a bit more clarification.

I currently have a Launch. I have a circulation pump plugged into the outlet. Same with my protein skimmer. I have been able to connect the two - if the cord pump is off the skimmer turns off, but I cannot figure out how to sync my WiFi feeding (2x a day) with pausing the pumps.

 

[naa3e5]

I’ll throw a bump in for this. It seems like a huge oversight not to be able to schedule a feed mode. I guess I’m not that smart, but I don’t understand the logic tree of the pictures above. I just want to program a very simple operation of “ enter feed mode, wait 30 seconds, activate feeder, wait five minutes, end feed mode”

 

[pblogic]

I’ll throw a bump in for this. It seems like a huge oversight not to be able to schedule a feed mode. I guess I’m not that smart, but I don’t understand the logic tree of the pictures above. I just want to program a very simple operation of “ enter feed mode, wait 30 seconds, activate feeder, wait five minutes, end feed mode”

I agree, I really appreciate the effort into explaining a work around but I’d like it if mode scheduling were added

 

[PensnCrows]

I’ll throw a bump in for this. It seems like a huge oversight not to be able to schedule a feed mode. I guess I’m not that smart, but I don’t understand the logic tree of the pictures above. I just want to program a very simple operation of “ enter feed mode, wait 30 seconds, activate feeder, wait five minutes, end feed mode”

I will second/third/fourth this.

I have had my launch for a while now and everything is great. I have added probes and feel that it is a great system. For me, I have not been able to go deep enough into the Hydros logic to make a feed mode work.

So. I bought a lid that had a deep feed box cutout. Put the WiFi feeder above that and let the food go in with all the pumps on. I also bought a button box so that with one push I can turn the pumps and skimmer off for when I target feed frozen.

But. I still wish that it was developed exactly as you described.

 

[MajorHavoc]

This is what I was looking for (feeding schedule). WOW, 6 screenshot to show one feature. Please can this be simplified.

 

[pblogic]

This is what I was looking for (feeding schedule). WOW, 6 screenshot to show one feature. Please can this be simplified.

Well, I requested it well over a year ago and have heard literally nothing so I wouldn’t expect it to ever change at this point. Things like this, along with the XHO light that has been “coming soon” for over a year make me wonder if Hydros is either winding down as a system, or at least at a permanent stand still.

 

[Danny]

i was also showing my feeder settings in that screenshot. The main one that creates the feed mode that is triggered by my wifi feeder is the one named feed mode. You would then use it in the depends on settings on any output you want off and set the dependency mode to off if on since you want those outputs off in the feed mode output is on or active. It takes 2 screenshots to get all the settings on the output displayed here. You can just set it to one input and that would be the feeder output. This is a combiner output type and that uses other outputsas input. The second one here is another output setup to disable the feed mode using another output but that is not needed. You need to turn on enable advanced settings so you can set a minimum on time. That will keep the output on for that amount of time once it is triggered on by the wifi feeder output, The feeder output only stays on a short amount of time. If you have questions about setting up this type of output feel free to post them here and I will try and answer them the best I can.

 

[Reefuzz]

So correct me if I’m wrong @Danny I have an avast plank that is controlled by my Launch ac outlet. I have it set to turn on at 11a with a run time of 15seconds with a run count of 2 with a 6hr interval.
Since is freeze dried food, I let it dwell in the pump tube for 3 minutes before the pump turns on at 1103a to push out the food with the same run count of 2 set to 6hr interval.
I then set up a pump schedule to ramp down my two Octopulse pumps at 1101am with the same run count and intervals as mentioned before.
Now can I set my return pump to turn off when the auto feeder turns on? This will then turn off my skimmer as it’s set to “turn off if off” when return is off?

 

[Danny]

You will have to recreate any other schedules so they are not active when the feed mode schedules are active. What I did is create another output that is triggered by the feed output and it is set for a minimum off time of 30 minutes. Then I set the depends on on any schedules other than feed mode for the pumps to be off if on for that output. On the feed mode schedule I set it to be off if off. The first 2 screenshots are the feed mode schedule and the second 2 are of the morning schedule but the other schedules have the same depends on settings as this one. The last 2 screenshots are of the feed mode output I created.