Sicce SDC 7.0 Pump connection to Kraken Force Port 24v

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Perhaps this photo makes the issue clearer. Just a warning to other people attempting to order that part from AliExpress.
Are you talking about this link? https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256...st_main.5.62991802F7ZB5I&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

it should come with both male and female connectors. Power from Force port should use the female M16 connector to the SDC or Red Sea. Well, I assume on the SDC....I only have Red Sea.

BTW, upgraded to Red Sea ReefRun 1200 G2 and it works with the connector I used for the 7000 and 5500.
 
Are you talking about this link? https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256...st_main.5.62991802F7ZB5I&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

it should come with both male and female connectors. Power from Force port should use the female M16 connector to the SDC or Red Sea. Well, I assume on the SDC....I only have Red Sea.

BTW, upgraded to Red Sea ReefRun 1200 G2 and it works with the connector I used for the 7000 and 5500.
Yes, what they shipped me had the wrong housing glued on each of the male/female ends. I ordered this off Amazon and got it working now with my Sicce 6.0 SDC: M16 Series 4-Pin Threaded Aviation Cable Plug - Screw Lock Line Connector, IP68 Waterproof - Amazon.com

Power draw looks to be expected!
 
Yes, what they shipped me had the wrong housing glued on each of the male/female ends. I ordered this off Amazon and got it working now with my Sicce 6.0 SDC: M16 Series 4-Pin Threaded Aviation Cable Plug - Screw Lock Line Connector, IP68 Waterproof - Amazon.com

Power draw looks to be expected!

How exactly did you wire the connector? Can you post some pics? I have this connector & I tried & tried getting an SDC 7.0 to power with Kraken & it did power up, but would immediately power back off, then on, then back off in an endless loop. I actually gave up on it. Please post more info on how you got this to work please!
Thank you!
 
How exactly did you wire the connector? Can you post some pics? I have this connector & I tried & tried getting an SDC 7.0 to power with Kraken & it did power up, but would immediately power back off, then on, then back off in an endless loop. I actually gave up on it. Please post more info on how you got this to work please!
Thank you!
I followed the instructions on your post, with no issues. I run my Sicce at 65% usually. Does the power cycle even when it’s run at lower power?
 
I followed the instructions on your post, with no issues. I run my Sicce at 65% usually. Does the power cycle even when it’s run at lower power?
Yes. It power cycles non stop at any setting. I'm not sure why. Now I'm even more stumped! Did you use the jumpers?
 
Great minds think alike! I already have them. Next time I feel like tinkering I'm going to try it.
Thanks!
 
Ok, here is the how-to guide to making a DIY cable so the Sicce SDC 7.0 pump can be powered with Kraken.

First, you'll need to buy these: Amazon.com

You'll only need the Female side. These are quality connectors with quality wire. Maybe you can find someone that sells only the Female? I couldn't find them, but I'm sure they are out there, I didn't spend a whole lot of time looking. The first ones I bought were advertised as 18AWG wire, but when I got them, they weren't. The wire was super tiny and thin and defintely not 18AWG, so be careful. From what I have read, the guage of the wire DOES matter.

Next, you'll need one of these for each DIY conector: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256...st_main.5.62991802F7ZB5I&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa
These screws are tiny. If you can solder and have the tools, you can get the solder type. I don't, so I went with the screws. I cannnot even see the screw tips they are so small, and if your screw them out too far, they can fall out, and trust me, they are so tiny, once one hits the floor, you will never find it :)

When you open the Sicce connector going into the controller, you will see:
Red wire connected to pin 1
Blue wire connected to pin 2
Black & White wires connected to pin 3
Nothing connected to pin 4

Below is the pinout for the Kraken.

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Now it's time to make the connector.
Here is the wire before assembly. I used a heat shrink tube (probably not necessary). Put the tube on the wire, and then the TWO parts you see in the photo that screw onto the Sicce controller after you assemble everything. Here is a picture. And you'll need to make two small jumpers.
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Next is a photo of the cable with the jumpers installed. You need to bend them to 180 degrees.

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Here is a pic where you can see the RED wire is going to Pin 3 with a jumper to Pin 4.

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Finally, here are two pics showing the completed cable. The black wire goes to Pin 1 with a jumper to Pin 2.

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I want to give a shout out to Richard (BR260354) for the help he gave me with this. He is also the one who supplied the link to the M16 Connector from Ali Express. It's people like him that jump in here giving up their free time to out fellow reefers. And he is the reason I am making this post (just paying it forward in hopes that this post will help someonw else). And finally a shout out to my wife, who was basically my eyes and hands as these screws and jumpers are very, very small and difficult to make for an old guy :) I was able to make everything and get it all ready, she put those tiny wires into the screw-down sockets while I held everthing in place as she screwed down the screws. You can see the screwdrivers we used in some of the photos. These are from an eyeglass repair kit my wife had (came in very handy). We had to use the smallest philips screwdriver in the kit.

This DIY mod works for me. However, I take no responsibilty for anyone else attempting this mod if it were to damage their pump, Kraken, or anything else. I am currently running two Sicce SDC 7.0 pumps being powered by Kraken with this mod. Thses two pumps does make the Kraken PC Board Temp run slightly higher, turning the temp numbers Orange. Here is more info about that in this thread here at Hydros Forum: Kraken PC Board Temp Too High???

I am assured by Hydros that this is not a problem for the pumps or Kraken. Let me know if anyone has any questions, I am happy to try and help.

Ken S


I finally decided I was going to attempt powering my Sicce SDC 9.0 with Kraken. Instructions posted by @KenS were very helpful. BY FAR, the most helpful suggestion was to disassemble the Sicce connector and pin out the cabling. Upon doing so I made a discovery that 1000% allowed me to avoid frying my pump controller. Unsure the difference between various Sicce models as I have not tried my SDC 6.0 pump yet. But there is ABSOLUTELY a difference between some Sicce models and the connector. Below is a photo of my OEM Sicce SDC 9.0 connector and cabling.

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Look closely at my M16 connector face and compare to Ken's posted above. From the keyhole in the top center pins are numbered 1-4 counterclockwise. Ken's post from 3/30/25 where the photo is rotated 90° with the keyhole to the right showa the pins are numbered 1-4 clockwise. Disaster averted by checking and paying close attention! Then disassembling to check the pinout I found a white wire jumpered to both pins 1 and 2 on my connector and a black wire on pin 3 with pin 4 unused SIMILAR to Ken's SDC 7.0. Checking with a volt meter, the white wires are +24V DC and black is ground.

Coincidentally the pinout of the M16 connector I purchased off Amazon is similar to Ken's SDC 7.0. Had I blindly followed his instructions without also following his example and first checking the Sicce connector then the polarity would have been reversed. And a high probability of damage!

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Before plugging anything in I double checked voltages at the connector with my meter. With the keyhole at the top and working counterclockwise, first two pins are +24V DC, third pin is ground and fourth is unused. Pin numbers may differ based on the connector you use so BE CAREFUL. This is a DIY project completed after careful review of others' efforts and confirming voltages of OEM pinout and DIY pinout several times over before connecting. I assume no responsibility for potential damage to Kraken, Sicce controller or pump due to improper wiring/connections.

So far, so good. Pump is powered by Kraken and controlled by Hydros via the Sicce Third Party api interface. It's a skimmer pump and just operating at a constant speed. Sicce Xstreams with frequent speed changes could be prone to speed limit (restricting the frequenxy of changes) limitations enforced by the Sicce api. One subtle difference between my implementation and Ken's is that I did not clip the OEM Sicce power supply. I had a Hydros Force cable with barrel connector that I was no longer using and clipped the barrel connector replacing it with the Amazon connector. Assuming this setup fumctions properly for another week or so I will then try tackling my SDC 6.0 on my bio reactor. Have not tested in low power mode as I have no intention of running this pump during outages.

Presently only have the one Sicce pump, two Wave Engines, X10 and two Soles on Kraken. Have not seen any significant impact to operating temperature yet. Just a couple degrees higher.

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So I am trying this today. I am not using the Amazon barrel connector, I am doing just as you did, snipped the barrel connector off of a 24V Force Port adapter cable. With the keyhole at 12 o'clock going counterclockwise, I put the red wire from the FP cable to pin 1, made a jumper with some excess red FP cable wire & used that to jumper to pin 2, black wire to pin 3. Pin 4 unused.

One thing I noticed right off the bat, the two FP wires inside the casing (hot & ground) are slightly thicker & each wire has more strands inside their respective casings than the the Amazon barrel connector wire, which I also used to make the jumper on my first attempt. Would the wires being too small cause the behavior I was seeing out of my pumps? On, off, on, off in an endless loop?

Thanks so much & I'm glad it's working for you & I'm glad (and quite shocked 🤣) that you found my post useful. My new connector is made off of your information. Any advice or insight before I plug this puppy in? Did you pinpoint exactly what I did wrong?
 
So I just went for it! I did some research first. On the Sicce ControlAll app (see screenshot) it shows SYNCRA SDC 7/9 and I checked Sicce's website parts list & the controller is interchangeable for the two pumps, so I assumed they are wired the same & plugged it in. It's been running an hour now with no on, off, on, off behavior. Sicce app says it's connected & working normally.

However the Kraken pc board temp is rising again. When I plugged it in it was 104. I watched it slowly & steadily rise to 129 (see screenshot). Still in the green but this is with only 1 pump connected. I have a water change set up so I'm going to make another connector & after the WC I'm going to run both off the Kraken & we'll see what happens.
 

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So I just went for it! I did some research first. On the Sicce ControlAll app (see screenshot) it shows SYNCRA SDC 7/9 and I checked Sicce's website parts list & the controller is interchangeable for the two pumps, so I assumed they are wired the same & plugged it in. It's been running an hour now with no on, off, on, off behavior. Sicce app says it's connected & working normally.

However the Kraken pc board temp is rising again. When I plugged it in it was 104. I watched it slowly & steadily rise to 129 (see screenshot). Still in the green but this is with only 1 pump connected. I have a water change set up so I'm going to make another connector & after the WC I'm going to run both off the Kraken & we'll see what happens.


I used M16 connectors with screw termnals which I connected the force cables to directly then jumpering 1 to 2. It is possible the barrel connector and lighter gauge wire resulted in voltage drop putting the output power right on the edge of minimum. That would be the only apparent difference.

The temperature increase is interesting. I'm also running my SDC 9.0 at 60%, a higher total draw peaking at just over 5.0A and my board temp has only increased about 10°. A little over 100°. Could be the ambient temperature and/or adjacent controls not allowing as much movement for the passive cooling. You are still in the safe range so I wouldn't be too concerned but something to watch.
 
Ok, so here's the answer. I made another connector exactly as the first. Plugged it in, pump fired up. Within one minute the first pump (first connector I made today) shut off. It fired right back up, then the other shut off, & started right back up again. Back and forth we go, on, off, on, off, on, off.

Kraken just cannot power 2 sicce 7.0 pumps at the same time is all I can guess 🤷

I'm using 1 on Kraken & 1 on its power brick & everything is fine (aside from the pc board temp a bit high). Not even sure I tried a single pump on first attempt at this. Maybe I have a bad Kraken? February will be one year that I bought this ridiculous thing. It's been a total waste of time and money for me, along with tons of frustration. It won't run the two main things I need it to run. It won't run 1/3rd of the other stuff I got it for. Since I have one Sicce running on it now, I have 3 Force Ports in use. $750 for 3 FP's and still have bricks everywhere and a huge Meanwell brick & the ridiculous Kraken unit itself. This thing has done nothing for me but make the cluster f_ck of wires & cables worse. May be time just to part ways with it. I'm going to call support tomorrow, open a ticket & have them look at it, but I'm not expecting much from Hydros support on this as it's a DIY thing. They have that disclaimer here at the forum about DIY. I'm very confident they'll hide behind that & refuse to help me but we'll see. Maybe they'll surprise me.
 
Based one your experience, support for only a single Sicce SDC pump may be a logical conclusion. I'd like to believe otherwise though and will try with a second pump tomorrow or Tuesday. It will be the SDC 6.0, force cable with barrel connector and same Amazon M16 adapter. Will check if I have a third force cable and order another M16 adapter trying a third SDC 6.0. Two things in your post give me hope this may be a one off experience with defective or marginally defective Kraken or Meanwell power supply. You've already noticed the significant board temperature increase (even though still in the safe zone) when running only a single pump. At 22.2V, your DC Voltage also seems low to me. May be interesting to put a meter on the Meanwell output comparing it to what your Kraken sees. Meter measured voltage versus Kraken observed voltage may be a very interesting datapoint. It also wouldn't take much effort to swap to the other Meanwell connector. Don't believe swapping will change anything but maybe worth a try. The low voltage and significant temperature increase seem suspect. Try Support tomorrow and get their take.


My Kraken running a SDC 9.0 at 60% and a coupke of Wave Engines presently active.
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I opened the app this morning and the board temp has turned orange and is at 131.4 degrees. I brought this up to support previously & they said it wasn't a concern,. But I can't image running a second SDC 7.0 pump, it would likely turn red, I'd think. This is with only one SDC 7.0 pump running. See screenshot. I'm going to submit the support ticket shortly. I touched the Kraken, the meanwell brick & the wire/connector & nothing feels hot to the touch.

Seems I may have a bad Kraken device since @thom_smith Kraken is running 2 similar pumps and his board temp is normal. Thinking I'll just go back to the brick for now as that board temp rising is a bit concerning to me. Don't want to cause a fire, Kraken stop working due to high temp or heaven forbid, cause a fire.
 

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I opened the app this morning and the board temp has turned orange and is at 131.4 degrees. I brought this up to support previously & they said it wasn't a concern,. But I can't image running a second SDC 7.0 pump, it would likely turn red, I'd think. This is with only one SDC 7.0 pump running. See screenshot. I'm going to submit the support ticket shortly. I touched the Kraken, the meanwell brick & the wire/connector & nothing feels hot to the touch.

Seems I may have a bad Kraken device since @thom_smith Kraken is running 2 similar pumps and his board temp is normal. Thinking I'll just go back to the brick for now as that board temp rising is a bit concerning to me. Don't want to cause a fire, Kraken stop working due to high temp or heaven forbid, cause a fire.
Hmm that is odd. I have some krakens running well above 8A and im still in the 90s. How do you have yours mounted? Does it have air flow around it?
 
I opened the app this morning and the board temp has turned orange and is at 131.4 degrees. I brought this up to support previously & they said it wasn't a concern,. But I can't image running a second SDC 7.0 pump, it would likely turn red, I'd think. This is with only one SDC 7.0 pump running. See screenshot. I'm going to submit the support ticket shortly. I touched the Kraken, the meanwell brick & the wire/connector & nothing feels hot to the touch.

Seems I may have a bad Kraken device since @thom_smith Kraken is running 2 similar pumps and his board temp is normal. Thinking I'll just go back to the brick for now as that board temp rising is a bit concerning to me. Don't want to cause a fire, Kraken stop working due to high temp or heaven forbid, cause a fire.

I would agree it appears something is up with your Kraken. You're only pulling about 4A, 25% of capacity, and your temperature is rising significantly. Not in the danger zone but enough I would also be concerned. Tend to believe your 22.2V DC Voltage is contributing. Contributing significantly. And if I were to guess, adding the second Sicce results in further voltage drop below a threshold they just can't handle. @JeffB418 thoughts?
 
Hmm that is odd. I have some krakens running well above 8A and im still in the 90s. How do you have yours mounted? Does it have air flow around it?
I'll snap a pic and post it tonight. My tank is plumbed thru a wall. The sump is in an unfinished area. The sump is sitting on a 6" tall platform with the Kraken and Launch mounted up about 4ft above and back from the sump about 6" (if that makes sense). The Meanwell brick is about 2-3 feet away from the devices. Above the devices is a shelf, but there is plenty of space, not cramped at all. Air flow should be fine, but I do not have a fan on it or anything like that.

It's a pretty large house and does not have zoned hvac so it is always 5+ degrees colder in the basement, which is fine in the summer but it's a bit nippy in the winter. I would bet the ambient air temp doesn't get above 66 or 67 degrees down there in the winter.
 
I would agree it appears something is up with your Kraken. You're only pulling about 4A, 25% of capacity, and your temperature is rising significantly. Not in the danger zone but enough I would also be concerned. Tend to believe your 22.2V DC Voltage is contributing. Contributing significantly. And if I were to guess, adding the second Sicce results in further voltage drop below a threshold they just can't handle. @JeffB418 thoughts?
You are talking another language to me.
:)

I am not an electrician, at all. But after the frustration set it with my Kraken I did buy this from Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09C6MGD7J?ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_asin_image&th=1 but I don't know how to use it and have never used it lol. I think it is still in the package.
:)
My electrician buddy of mine called me up a couple months ago and asked if I got the project working. I told him it is on hold for now. I am going to call him and see if he can swing by over the weekend. Can I use that meter to check what the Kraken is putting out for each port? I am actually a pretty handy guy, been in construction all my life (tile/marble install company) but I have just never messed with electric. Never wanted to. And truth be told, I am scared of it in all honesty. Always have been. I have always just taken the attitude of leave that to the electricians. I can plug something in and change a light bulb, but that's about it.
 
Support ticket entered. Phone call with Michael S. went far beyond my expectation and is sending a replacement unit. Hopefully I'll have it next week. Very curious to find out if this has been a bad Kraken all along. Top notch CS. By far the best CS experience I've had with any aquarium product in the 16 years I've kept tanks.
 
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