Xp8 connectivity

[Detri50]

I'm a intensely happy customer! I can't express this more.

However, when I decided to buy my choices wer x4 x2 then the xp8 versions. Well, x3 and xl were not available to me from local sellers. Buying local is important to me. But, I could buy xp8 starter kits.

I am 1000% disappointed with the info available. The xp8 is advertised as a "wired" power/controller. In the product description from coralvue. This is a "wired" connection. Even on your site. It doesn't say it connects wirelessly to the wifi app. But was able to controll a collective As long as it is "wired".

Do I need an ethertnet cable to connect this product?

 

[Shred5]

I'm a intensely happy customer! I can't express this more.

However, when I decided to buy my choices wer x4 x2 then the xp8 versions. Well, x3 and xl were not available to me from local sellers. Buying local is important to me. But, I could buy xp8 starter kits.

I am 1000% disappointed with the info available. The xp8 is advertised as a "wired" power/controller. In the product description from coralvue. This is a "wired" connection. Even on your site. It doesn't say it connects wirelessly to the wifi app. But was able to controll a collective As long as it is "wired".

Do I need an ethertnet cable to connect this product?

It is wired through the command bus to the other Hydros controllers instead of Wifi strips which only access is WiFi. It does not mean wired network.


says right on Coralvue site:

HYDROS Control XP8 Energy Bar (Controller Only)

Full HYDROS Controller with eight controllable AC power outlets each with individual power monitoring capabilities to safely manage aquarium equipment that is critical to the life of the system. This is for the Controller only but HYDROS PRO packs are also available.

www.coralvue.com

The two HYDROS Command Bus ports on the XP8 allow for a wired connection to any other HYDROS controller to form a collective of all Controls in one for the ultimate failsafe system

No were does it say wired ethernet connection.

 

[Danny]

If you got the kit it should have the terminators needed to create a collective. Once the controllers are in a collective the wired connection is between the controllers and not your network. Communication between the controllers, the cloud and the device you use to access them is still via wifi. The other option is the wifi power strips. Those require communication between the controllers and the power strips via the wifi. If you loose wifi with the XP8 it will continue to control the outputs using the inputs from the other controller. With the wifi strips they will remain in what ever state they were in when communication was lost until communication is restored.

 

[Detri50]

It is wired through the command bus to the other Hydros controllers instead of Wifi strips which only access is WiFi. It does not mean wired network.


says right on Coralvue site:

HYDROS Control XP8 Energy Bar (Controller Only)

Full HYDROS Controller with eight controllable AC power outlets each with individual power monitoring capabilities to safely manage aquarium equipment that is critical to the life of the system. This is for the Controller only but HYDROS PRO packs are also available.

www.coralvue.com

No were does it say wired ethernet connection.

Well frig. I definitely would not have bought what I have. Though seriously happy. I wish the info was more precise. Judging by comments. The 'wired" proportion was a fix for them. Though I'm a little more understanding and knowable with regards my router this is a non issue. I would have spent the money, hands down no question. I may not have wasted my money. But, I would have gained a lot more.

 

[Detri50]

If you got the kit it should have the terminators needed to create a collective. Once the controllers are in a collective the wired connection is between the controllers and not your network. Communication between the controllers, the cloud and the device you use to access them is still via wifi. The other option is the wifi power strips. Those require communication between the controllers and the power strips via the wifi. If you loose wifi with the XP8 it will continue to control the outputs using the inputs from the other controller. With the wifi strips they will remain in what ever state they were in when communication was lost until communication is restored.

Hey Danny,

I love your ability to to teach. You are amazing! But, this thread, though I may have misinterpreted the advertising I definitely would have bought the xp8. And wish I understood what the xp8 offered upfront. Like I said. I misunderstood what was written and have struggled with that type of scenario all my life. Thankfully companies like yours have a place like this so I can express and or ask questions

 

[Danny]

Thanks, you can also access your collective if you are home and there is no internet or wifi by using bluetooth. Just make sure bluetooth is turned on on the device you are using to communicate but turn off wifi so it will go through mobile to access the cloud. Click to access the left menu and click on the bluetooth icon in the menu. The select the wifi master from the list of controller. It will let you check the status on inputs and output and also change outputs from off/auto/status. You cannot change any programming but during an emergency loss of wifi or internet most will not be concerned with doing things like that. I was using the Archon before switching to this controller and I had no wired connection between it and the network. It was connected via wifi. Every time I had an issue it would not have mattered anyway since it was a router or internet issue. The wired devices were also down.

The XP8 was a controller that a lot of people were asking for. They wanted outlets that were wired to the controller instead of via wifi. It does that and more since it has a controller built into it and can make decisions based on inputs and even if an input becomes unavailable. So now you have a choice of which you use to power a paticular device with. There are quite a few devices that are not mission critical that will be just fine on wifi power strips. It is up to you to decide which is best for the devices on your system. I use both the XP8 and the wifi strips.

FYI I am not an employee of CoralVue. I love the controller and enjoy helping out on the forum.

 

[Detri50]

I didn't entend to make what I said controversial. Specifically not here. All I meant was,

I misunderstood the advertising for xp8.

Seriously Danny, your input is key. I was just disappointed with the information provided as far as advertising. My fault, wish I was more able to add smart ( I guess educated argument) but you get me.

Love ya all
Ron B

 

[Danny]

I understand, but that said a wired network connection would not be a must for me since I have not used it on a aquarium controller for over 6 years now. I do however like the outlets being wired to the controller buss. This way as they are not dependent on the router or wifi to continue to function as intended. It is just a little more difficult to see what is going on on the controller if the wifi or internet is down. The way your reply was worded I got the impression that you thought I was working for CoralVue not that it matters as long as your questions get answers. I do have a connection with them since I also do beta testing for them. I was also in the electronics field before retiring. So I do have some experience at troubleshooting issues similar to a lot of the questions on the forum. Don't worry it is all good on my end.

 

[Detri50]

Om tried to edit.

I was drawing up a plan to use a dosing pump/s to do water changes every 2-3 days (measured to approximately 10% per week) for the next 6 or so months as a dosing method while my tank matures. In hopes it can handle the parameters my salt can provides to elevate extra dosing via chemicals.

I understand, but that said a wired network connection would not be a must for me since I have not used it on a aquarium controller for over 6 years now. I do however like the outlets being wired to the controller buss. This way as they are not dependent on the router or wifi to continue to function as intended. It is just a little more difficult to see what is going on on the controller if the wifi or internet is down. The way your reply was worded I got the impression that you thought I was working for CoralVue not that it matters as long as your questions get answers. I do have a connection with them since I also do beta testing for them. I was also in the electronics field before retiring. So I do have some experience at troubleshooting issues similar to a lot of the questions on the forum. Don't worry it is all good on my end.

You mister/ma'am, are a required on every site in the world.

I feel this way, because, you actually really care about every individual that expresses an opinion. ( not just what you feel, but, a hypothetical one. With every question). You are the reason why people like myself post. Thank you! Your guidance is worth every key stroke, and I mean that.

I shouldn't have given my opinion they way I did here. There was no context. All I meant to say was. I misunderstood the information provided about the xp8. And I would have bought that kit instead, in hindsight.

Danny. Don't ever stop being "The" advocate here. And I did sincerely think you were a tech.

Ron B

 

[Detri50]

Dang, the top portion (before my reply) was a post from a few days ago. Must of caught up with me.

 

[Shred5]

Of the regulars here the only ones who work for Coralvue is Carlos and Don. The rest of us are here to help.
Never be afraid to ask a question or express your opinion of the product. It is the only way to learn on both sides.

 

[Danny]

Om tried to edit.

I was drawing up a plan to use a dosing pump/s to do water changes every 2-3 days (measured to approximately 10% per week) for the next 6 or so months as a dosing method while my tank matures. In hopes it can handle the parameters my salt can provides to elevate extra dosing via chemicals.

You mister/ma'am, are a required on every site in the world.

I feel this way, because, you actually really care about every individual that expresses an opinion. ( not just what you feel, but, a hypothetical one. With every question). You are the reason why people like myself post. Thank you! Your guidance is worth every key stroke, and I mean that.

I shouldn't have given my opinion they way I did here. There was no context. All I meant to say was. I misunderstood the information provided about the xp8. And I would have bought that kit instead, in hindsight.

Danny. Don't ever stop being "The" advocate here. And I did sincerely think you were a tech.

Ron B

I use dosing pumps for AWC. I just started using the Hydros auto water change regimen about three weeks ago. Before that I was using a dual head dosing pump. I kept the same basic schedule. I run three water changes a day. I posted the setup I am using on my build thread on R2R if you are interested in seeing how I did it. Here is the link Build Thread - Canopy and Stand Build for 42 Gallon Hex Tank . It is post # 154 on page 8.

 

[Danny]

If you only have the XP8 and no controller with inputs you can always get the controller only of your choice with a command buss cable and at least one terminator. The most terminators you will need in a collective is two so it is not a bad idea to go ahead and get two. The XP8 will power several other controllers including itself so you won't need a power pack for the second controller. If fact you cannot use one of them with the XP8 or Wave Engine in the collective, but you can use both the wave engines and XP8 together. Once you get it you can add it to your account and set it up before starting the collective by connecting it up to the XP8 Jut make sure the XP8 is not plugged into power when adding other devices to the command buss. Once you have it registered and setup on your wifi you can select the XP8 and then create a collective. The controller you are in when you create the collective will be the first member and retain all the setups for inputs and outputs. Then when in the collective you can add the other controller using devices in the left menu. Then they will act as one larger controller with all the inputs and outputs of all the member controllers. Hope this helps.

 

[Detri50]

Thank you!

 

[Detri50]

It is wired through the command bus to the other Hydros controllers instead of Wifi strips which only access is WiFi. It does not mean wired network.


says right on Coralvue site:

HYDROS Control XP8 Energy Bar (Controller Only)

Full HYDROS Controller with eight controllable AC power outlets each with individual power monitoring capabilities to safely manage aquarium equipment that is critical to the life of the system. This is for the Controller only but HYDROS PRO packs are also available.

www.coralvue.com

No were does it say wired ethernet connection.

I am slightly dense. Some would say touched. But I assure you. I only need to read things 20 million times. Google would go broke if I was smart!!!