Klir fleece roller v2

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I see the v2 was just released for the klir’s. I am not finding much detail on the upgrades, other than a new water sensor and controller…both of which I believe are irrelevant if I were to connect to hydros.

So I will ask, are there other updates in the v2 versions that I should know about…or can I pick up the v1 on sale and get the same performance???
 
I didn't even know their was a new version II.
I looked and it does not even say if it is compatible with the Hydros.
I would bet it is though. Wait for @Carlos to say.
If it is the page should be changed on the website to say it is and what is needed.

I see the new one has a magnetic mounted sensor which is a decent upgrade if you do not use a Hydros.
 
Hopefully they added some advanced logic to the V2 controller. I burned through fleece very quickly and was dissatisfied with the original controller before transitioning to Hydros. Even with the Klir V2 I would suggest controlling via Hydros. Additionally I would suggest using a Generic output rather than the built-in Klir recipe. The Klir recipe works ok with tweaks made below Enable Advanced Settings. I have Klir, Sump High, Sump Full and AWC Drain water level sensors each lower in the sump in my setup. The Generic output allows me to only run the Klir when sensor Klir is WET and Sump High is DRY with the same Enable Advanced Settings tweaks. I also use the Klir WET sensor as an input to my customized ATO to prevent it from triggering until Klir dumps any backed up water.

With the original Klir filters, there was kind of a 1.1 release that upgraded the drive motor from 3RPM to a higher torque 11RPM motor. Uncertain the specifications of the original but I don't recall replacing the control at the time CoralVue replaced them for me. The new (current) motor is significantly larger in diameter and per my (unused sitting on the shelf) controller/power adapter 12V 0.6A. Checked the details of the V2. Zooming in on the motor it *appears* the same approximate dimensions of mine and the specifications below indicate it is also 12V 0.6A. (Actually it reads 12V 0.06A but that has to be a typo and can't possibly be correct.) I can't say with certainty but I am very confident it is the same body and motor with a new controller and much more accurate triple sensor.
 
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Hopefully they added some advanced logic to the V2 controller. I burned through fleece very quickly and was dissatisfied with the original controller before transitioning to Hydros. Even with the Klir V2 I would suggest controlling via Hydros. Additionally I would suggest using a Generic output rather than the built-in Klir recipe. The Klir recipe works ok with tweaks made below Enable Advanced Settings. I have Klir, Sump High, Sump Full and AWC Drain water level sensors each lower in the sump in my setup. The Generic output allows me to only run the Klir when sensor Klir is WET and Sump High is DRY with the same Enable Advanced Settings tweaks. I also use the Klir WET sensor as an input to my customized ATO to prevent it from triggering until Klir dumps any backed up water.

With the original Klir filters, there was kind of a 1.1 release that upgraded the drive motor from 3RPM to a higher torque 11RPM motor. Uncertain the specifications of the original but I don't recall replacing the motor at the time CoralVue replaced them for me. The new (current) motor is significantly larger in diameter and per my (unused sitting on the shelf) controller/power adapter 12V 0.6A. Checked the details of the V2. Zooming in on the motor it *appears* the same approximate dimensions of mine and the specifications below indicate it is also 12V 0.6A. (Actually it reads 12V 0.06A but that has to be a typo and can't possibly be correct.) I can't say with certainty but I am very confident it is the same body and motor with a new controller and much more accurate triple sensor.


I agree. I think with the sensor now being movable it can help. I had opposite issue, I ran two Klirs on a sump with slower flow and the water took forever to go high enough to trigger it. I should have just plugged the hole on one side and ran one Klir..
Adding it to the Hydros was huge. I honestly didn't like it till then.
Hopefully version 2 fixed the issues.

The Coralvue site does not mention if the Hydros works with version 2. I think it would be a big deal for them if it does and one of the more important points that should be on the site.
I would guess it still does and still requires the adapter and a sensor like the last one but until someone says for sure I do not know.
 
is the 750 gmp max really valid for the 4”? I have more flow than that, will this thing really not work properly with 1000-1100 gmp?
 
is the 750 gmp max really valid for the 4”? I have more flow than that, will this thing really not work properly with 1000-1100 gmp?


750 GPH not sure what Gmp is, I am guessing you meant gph.

If they say it I would not go over that.

If a pump is rated at lets say 1000 gph does not mean that is what you are actually getting after head pressure and all that.
 
I agree. I think with the sensor now being movable it can help. I had opposite issue, I ran two Klirs on a sump with slower flow and the water took forever to go high enough to trigger it. I should have just plugged the hole on one side and ran one Klir..
Adding it to the Hydros was huge. I honestly didn't like it till then.
Hopefully version 2 fixed the issues.

The Coralvue site does not mention if the Hydros works with version 2. I think it would be a big deal for them if it does and one of the more important points that should be on the site.
I would guess it still does and still requires the adapter and a sensor like the last one but until someone says for sure I do not know.
I agree there should be a badge or something identifiable on the CoralVue site for anything that work with Hydros. Maybe @Carlos can take that feedback back to the Marketing team and they can make it happen. Tagged him here because I already messaged him privately relativw to this thread and the incorrect (at least appears so to me) Klir V2 specifications on the CoralVue site which have since been corrected.


is the 750 gmp max really valid for the 4”? I have more flow than that, will this thing really not work properly with 1000-1100 gmp?

Unfortunately I can't speak to the 4". I have the 7" and it handles the 1350gph measured by my flow meter with ease
 
I received the components for the v2 upgrade today and although I didn't experience any major issues my biggest gripe was with the roll slacking too much and causing water to pour out, so this kit includes rings to make it harder to have that happen.

The rings feel pretty cheap and they could easily break and not much info on which way they should go in as there is a thinner side and a thicker side. The new controller is tiny and the new optical looks pretty nice. I felt like I was almost jamming it in there for it to all fit right with the rings but now there is some tension so hoping that fixes my issues.

This upgrade was for x2 klir 7s
 
I agree. I think with the sensor now being movable it can help. I had opposite issue, I ran two Klirs on a sump with slower flow and the water took forever to go high enough to trigger it. I should have just plugged the hole on one side and ran one Klir..
Adding it to the Hydros was huge. I honestly didn't like it till then.
Hopefully version 2 fixed the issues.

The Coralvue site does not mention if the Hydros works with version 2. I think it would be a big deal for them if it does and one of the more important points that should be on the site.
I would guess it still does and still requires the adapter and a sensor like the last one but until someone says for sure I do not know.
The sensor was movable before I run dual and bought the magnet attachment for the optical and removed it from the klir. Not sure of your setup but there should only be a single optical used when running duals and you get the Y power splitter to run the motors so it uses the rolls equaly.
 
For current HYDROS/Klir users, you will not see a difference as the V2 upgrade is basically a mirror of what the HYDROS already has. Magnetic mounting sensor and better controller logic. The only difference is the tension rings for the fleece roller.
 
purchased the v2 and it’s up and running on hydros. Good so far.

1) what is the hydros standard advance roller time setting?

2) does anyone have a better gasket solution than the razor thin gasket provided. It’s ridiculous trying to get that gasket to seat properly against the sock holder tray.
 
These were my Klir settings when I took them offline about a 6+months ago so some stuff may have changed. I am rebuilding the system.
It worked for my system really well but you may have to tweak yours. So much is dependent on flow, load, feedings, height of sensor etc. I also ran two of them with low flow.



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As far as gasket my Klir v1 came with different sized plates to fit different size holes.
 
As @Shred5 said many contributing factors. Check out LIVE [CVtv] Workshop - Klir & HYDROS for some tips and tricks. Then tweak to your desired settings. I personally customize using the Generic output type with KLIR-HI Wet and SUMP-HI Dry as inputs to prevent the fleece from indefinitely advancing in case sump level is high for some reason. Then I run a very similar configuration the the CVtv video below Advanced Settings.
 
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Just started installing my kilr di-4, where can I find instructions for installing the tension ring and foam rings? Thanks!
 
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